Should new members, go straight into the A team

[Bigbear]

How do you bowlers feel, know we got two new Bowlers, joining next year,

Both are very good skips, with great track records,

But they will go straight into the A team, what happens to the good players, who have played all last year,

Some one will have to be dropped, when this happens, it causes unrest, right through the club,

I don't think this is right, should you win at all costs, or keep the majority of your members happy, what does everyone think, Bigbear

[Blondie]

Better a happy club, I would make them play in lesser teams,

If they are good club members, this should not cause any problem,
,
When they win some of the club competitions, then they deserve the

right to be considered for the A team,:)Blondie.

[campbell]

I think this is a different situation to the one I described, where existing A team players were replacing C team players in the quest for a cup.

I think if the club are willing to accept these players and they are THAT good, then why should'nt they go straight into the A team? These are players that are already proven, done it and wore the T shirt!

One thing that would concern though is why are they leaving the club(s) that they are currently in?

We had one "so say" A team skip joined us last year, he has gone from A team skip to A team three to A team two, and now he is in the B team! He has also caused alot of unrest among other players (has a habit of yelling and screaming if things go wrong!) his old club have expressed relief that he is no longer with them!

best regards...............Campbell

[kiwi bowler]

Our interclub teams are decided by our performance in our club tournaments and roll ups. So perhaps that's how your club should do it or have trials?
Yes I too believe they shouldn't go straight into the A team until they have proved that they are good enough.

[Surfer]

Alway suspicious, when you get good skips, changing clubs,

They must have had a big row over something, could be they think they might be dropped down to the B team,

Causes so much unrest, even before the teams are selected, Should be a one year rule, to see how good they are,

Bit of a headache for selection, Surfer8-)

[Sam]

Had a New Lady join, who came from Jersey and joined last year,

Went straight into the A team, and turned out to be useless,

What some people seem to forget is that there are only four Clubs over there

And the competition is not that fierce, we have to work our way through a larger number of clubs, and then the divisional final, to get our badge Sam:D

[Silver]

Hi Cambell, know exactly what you mean, got a chap who skips for us,
All right if you are winning, any pressure, and he goes to pieces,
Can always tell when we are down, he shouts more and gets really annoyed,
Then he sulks, everyone hates playing with him, would rather not bowl,
Than go through that every time Silver

[campbell]

Hi Silver,

We actually find watching him is quite amusing, but it is off putting for the people playing in the same side.

I think it also gives the opposition a bit of a lift because they may think that the whole team is rattled.

Results for all the teams that this chap has played for have not been good, but only for the period of time he has played for them! (must say something!)

best regards................Campbell

[Angel]

:(Very entering for the spectators, but dreadful if you are in their team, had a lady who usually played three, go into skip position, went to her head, we had the number three coming up, saying if she speaks to me like that again, I'm going to walk off, the Skip coming up and saying not quietly my number three doesn't know what she is doing, i shall have to teach her, was so glad when the game finished, needless to say we lost, best thing was our Skip was useless never put a good wood up all game, the club have placed this particular player in every position in the teams, and she still causes trouble Help Angel:(

[Devon Bowler]

No way, Fed up with New so called Good Bowlers, joining, and going straight into the A team, Its all arranged beforehand,

They will only join a club if they have been promised a place in the top team,other poor sods like us, who have played and won our places, supported the club,

Both with time and finances, are dropped, Selection need to address this issue, Devon Bowler:confused:

[Jean]

l Haven't played all that long, but getting good bowlers to join, should be a good thing,
It would strengthen the club, and make it more possible to win, Jean

[Devon Bowler]

Thats all very well Jean, but the unrest these players, can cause, If someone is dropped from the A team,

They will go into the B team, and this runs right through the club,

What you get is a happy club, becoming a very resentful one, with a number of unhappy players,

These players have won a number of county and club competitions,
The new members, are going by reputation alone, got to be a fairer way of doing things,

[Oldie]

In my day players had to earn their place, do agree with the comments of the amount of unrest this can cause!!!

Might strengthen a Club in the short term, but what goes round comes around, if you look back you can always see the problems.

Great to be back

Oldie

[campbell]

Hi All,
Our club and many others in our area are crying out for new members, both experienced and novice.

If anyone expressed a wish to join our club I would encourage them as best as I could (even if he/she might take my place in the team)

If this happens it is down to selection (who presumably are acting in the best interests of the club)

If we assume the selection team get it right, then we should be left with a stronger team, and an extra member in the club.

Problems only arise when:
a) The selection commitee get it all wrong
b) The existing member resents being replaced by a better bowls player.

It could be that the selectors make a mistake, in which case its easily rectified, but if its not, then the membership need to sort it out pretty quickly!

All the above is based on the assumption that we know the track record of the proposed new member ( ie he/she has been known to us over a period of time, known as a good player with a good reputation)

I totally agree that noone should be allowed to take anothers place in any team when the decision is based on heresay.

In this instance I would still welcome them into the club, but leave them to prove themselves or otherwise,

best regards..............Campbell

[kiwi bowler]

Yes they should be welcomed into any club, but they should have to prove themselves first.
I don't beleive they can join a club in the middle of the season and take the place of someone who had been selected and is playing in the A Team or any team for that fact.
It's also very strange them changing clubs mid season?

[Devon Bowler]

Don't usually get players, changing clubs in mid season,
Our season ends middle of September, and all the league games and county and national competitions, are finished beginning of August,
The thing is if you want to enter the county competitions next year you have to be a member of that club when you enter, which is this year,
Thats why you get players changing clubs in middle of the season, they pay a small amount, and are members,
Over here you can belong to any number of clubs but only play league, county, from one club,
Hope i haven't rambled on to much, Devon Bowler:)

[campbell]

Yes Kiwi Bowler, I must admit I was assuming that the person(s) concerned were joining at the start of the season.
I agree with you on both counts,

best regards............Campbell

[Surfer]

Thing is when you know you have a new bowler joining, everyone is wondering who is going to be dropped next season,
Causes no end of problems, get a lot of talk, if i am going to be dropped,
I shall leave and join another club, No answer to this one Surfer:(

[kiwi bowler]

Last year when I joined my new bowling club after the season had been playing for about 2 months. (note it was about 3 years since I had last played bowls, so I wasn't really swopping clubs).
But anyway they didn't put me in a interclub team, but used me as a reserve as I was new to the club. I have now proved myself over the rest of the season and should make a team this coming season.

[Angel]

Sounds like the way to go, if they made it Club policy that all new players, went as reserve, it would solve a lot of problems, Could give people some idea of what these new players were like, Angel:D

[Silver]

Should try selection for a year, think every member, should have to do this, at least once,

An awful lot of players think they are better that they are, some will only play Skip,

They were good once, which was about twenty years ago, need to be Solomon to sort it out, Silver:roll::roll: